Monday, June 05, 2006

Let’s Start Previewing the Fall Election - State Ballot Measures

There’s a lot on the ballot this November. At the federal level, one of our United States Senate seats is up as is our seat in Congress. At the state level, the Governorship, Lt. Governorship, Attorney General, State Treasurer, State Secretary, State Assembly and half of our State Senate are all up for election. Further, the county constitutional offices are up.

Also on the ballot are two ballot measures. I will briefly profile them today.

One measure would put a ban on gay civil unions, marriage and other benefits of domestic partnerships into our state’s constitution. The other would be an advisory referendum on whether or not Wisconsin should have the death penalty.

Both are stupid.

The measure to ban gay marriages and civil unions would make Wisconsin less like, well, Wisconsin and a whole lot more like Mississippi. It would enshrine family law into our constitution by banning gay marriage (already illegal), civil unions (ditto) and potentially other laws that affect domestic partners. This perhaps is the most egregious.

It is one thing to not support gay marriages. Yes, it is a wonderful institution that deserves state protection from the homos. Hell, almost half of them work out. Let’s not ruin it by allowing two people who love each other to share their commitment via marriage. Even if two people who don’t even know each other’s names can get married by Elvis without evening leaving their car in Las Vegas, let ‘s not let the homos near it. We don’t want to buy more wedding gifts.

And civil unions, hell no. Legal recognition of any kind is wrong. Let the lawyers sort out the affairs of gay “couples”. Who needs legal protections like the other ninety percent of society? No way, bucko. I don’t care if two-thirds of Wisconsinites believe in civil unions, we can’t go there.

But the part that really needs attention is the part in the language proposed to voters that says anything ‘substantially similar’ is not allowed. What does that mean? Well in Ohio and Utah that means opposite sex, unmarried couples are not allowed any benefits that could be given only to married couples. That includes benefits like access to domestic violence laws. In both states men and women have been denied things like restraining orders when they’ve encountered domestic violence, due to their state’s passing a constitutional amendment defining marriage. And in Michigan, the state decided to no longer allow health care benefits to non-married couples. Yup, taking away health care certainly must be in God’s plan.

The bottom line is that the amendment was concocted to help get out the conservative base vote in the fall elections. Period. No good public policy benefit. No real debate. Just a tool for conservative tools. Think Jenna and Co.

Use one group of people to get what you want. Machiavelli would be so proud.

My prediction: Thanks to the strong opposition of the faith community, labor, progressive groups and fair-minded citizens, the measure will fail, making Wisconsin the first state to turn back one of these idiotic measures. And in the process, more younger voters will turn out on college campuses helping elect more Democrats to the state legislature. Thanks John Gard.

On the advisory question of the death penalty, I advise you to reread the reason why the marriage amendment is on the ballot: to bring out conservative voters.

Without getting into the many, many reasons why killing people in the name of the state is wrong for Wisconsin, one really only need to know that it doesn’t deter anyone. The reasons offered why we need it are as wrong as most, no, every conservative dumb-dit. Once, again, conservatives think the public is stupid. I guess if that’s true we really do have a representative democracy in the state legislature.

Every poll shows strong support for the general concept.

My prediction: It passes by a wide margin. A meaningless referendum passes, without the permanent harm of the other amendment. We look stupid, but we still don’t have the death penalty in our statutes.

Watch for more of my fall election analysis, website links, political gossip and telling of conservative lies. I’ll be sure to write more of what you want. Post me suggestions for what else you might like covered. I aim to please.

6 Comments:

At 1:56 AM, June 06, 2006, Blogger Captain Ron said...

You know, I've always had this great plan for the gay marriage problem. Seeing as how I am a Christian and for the most part, liberal, I've always been torn on several issues. I grew up in a family of bigotry that I was never really comfortable with.

Inasmuch, my plan is simple. Considering I believe marriage was instituted by God when he joined Adam and Eve, the issue becomes a violation of church and state. Most, if not all, of our laws of morality are based on the 10 commandments. Well, I think that any union should be a civil union in the eyes of the law, regardless of the gender of the 2 parties. Marriage should be left to the church and completely separate. If the church wants to ban gay marriage, fine. But in the eyes of the law, where all people are supposedly created equal, it's time we start practicing what we preach and not alienating those who are different just because they don't fit the "perfect" mold the conservatives have created for themselves. That's not what I learned in religion class.

Just think if 90% of the country was gay and they wanted to ban straight marriage. I'd be pissed!

Keep the faith! Cap

 
At 5:04 AM, June 06, 2006, Blogger Eric said...

Captain Ron,

I totally agree with what you're about this issue. I've gotta disagree with you on the 10 commandments being the basis of our laws of morality. Christopher Hitchens had a piece on this at slate.com a few years back that really made me think it through and see how odd that argument is. Let's go through the 10 and you'll see what I mean.

1 and 2 deal with not putting any other gods or idols before God and not using the Lord's name in vain. Those really can't be a law in a liberal democracy that protects the right to practice(or not practice)religion as we see fit and the freedom of speech.

3 deals with the sabbath day which again isn't really something the government should get involved in.

4 has to do with honoring your parents. While that may be a nice thought, we don't have laws regarding it (nor should we).

5 is simple. Don't kill others. That's something the government should legislate but seriously what society doesn't have this law whether they are Judeo Christian or not?

6 has to do with adultery. Adultery is legal in all 50 states I believe. Again not applicable.

7 tells you not to steal. See comments for 5.

8 has to do with lying. Good idea but its not legal unless you're in court.

9 and 10 really deal with similar issues: lust/greed. While both of those are not necessarily good things in the excess, in some ways both are pretty useful in moderation and the government doesn't get involved in those.

So out of 10 commandments we have only 2 actual LAWS that the government should enforce but all societies need those two laws to function. If people are allowed to kill and steal at will, society really wouldn't exist.

Now I don't know if you meant by laws of morality meaning christian morality or actual laws. Either way I hope this made you think.

Oh and Mark thanks for being political. I love seeing a politician saying it how it is. :)

 
At 9:19 AM, June 06, 2006, Blogger Captain Ron said...

Eric,

I think you misread me a little. What I was saying is that the laws dealing with moral issues are in the 10 commandments, not the 10 commandments are all laws. I do agree with most of what you said though, as I had those drilled into my head for 13 years, it's kinda hard to forget.

One other thing about many of the Christian-based denominations is they are place an excessive amount of weight on tradition, even if they are not specifically laid out in the bible. There is no commandment stating, "Thou shalt not be a homosexual." We know that gay people have been around since the days of Abraham at least. The only reference I recall hearing of in the bible was the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, where God rained fire and brimstone on the people for their sexual immorality. However, they were not just gay, but they were raping people and doing other horrible things.

I have come to realize that gay people are a part of life. One of the funniest guys I ever met was a gay black guy. We talked about sports and music. I didn't want to know what happened in his bedroom and he didn't want to know what happened in mine. My ex-girlfriend's sister is gay. Most of the time I got along with her better than the GF. We'd probably be best friends today had I not cussed her sister out so bad when I dumped her.

The moral of the story is, Christians are supposed to open their hearts to people and love everyone the same. Treating gay people as if they are worse sinners because of their lifestlye just makes those people hypocrites. God loves everyone the same and He is the only one who is allowed to judge sinners. Attempting to oppress people is a violation of the 1st commandment because those people trying to pass a gay marriage ammendment are trying to play God.

 
At 5:01 PM, June 07, 2006, Blogger TomInGrandRapidsMI said...

Leviticus 18:22
and
Leviticus 20:13

Is all I have to say on this subject...

 
At 4:52 PM, June 09, 2006, Blogger Jack Lohman said...

I most certainly agree with the first post. I’m also an obviously weak Christian, and mine is not the standard Christian belief. But I don’t believe God put only Christians on the earth. He also installed Muslims and the other several hundred religions and non-religions so we could sort out where we each wanted to spend our own eternity. I choose not to spend mine with Virgins. I’m too old for that.

I see gay marriage first a Human Rights issue, and all humans have the right to chose who they want to spend their life with. I support Gay unions and leaving the marriages to the churches. I chose the latter and have enjoyed that side of the equation.

But I unfortunately see this as a political attempt to (a) divert our attention from the other serious GOP failures like the war, loss of jobs, and government ethics. It is indeed important for the Republicans to get the right-wing voters to the polls to offset these GOP failures, and perhaps it will draw just as many from the left.

Jack Lohman
www.ThrowTheRascalsOut.org

 
At 11:59 AM, June 17, 2006, Blogger jeff said...

I agree with you that the death penalty advisory referendum is stupid, but not for the reason you sighted.

It is stupid because there is enough evidence that the majority of the people of Wisconsin want the return of the death penalty that there should be no need for the referendum.

The problem is that you and your fellow legislators dont have the nerve to debate the issue publicly and take a public vote on it.

The referendum is just a delaying action so that it is hoped the whole issue will go away.

It wont. What will happen after November is that both houses, no matter who is in charge, will delay doing anything about it because neither party leadership has the nerve to face the issue.

 

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